Issue #17 Page 4: Damon

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It’s been awhile since we’ve seen this fellow…!

Damon & Pythias were friends from Greek Legend who were willing to die for one another. They were also the pen names that Benjamin Tallmadge and Nathan Hale used when they wrote to one another.

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108 Responses to Issue #17 Page 4: Damon

  1. Caera says:

    Aww she called him Damon! So sweet. *tear*

    I think she’s handled this fairly well, all things considered. Find Nate’s bestie, don’t go into too much detail, and now–The big GW is going to make another appearance? :) Please say yes.

    Lol sorry.

    • Julie says:

      Oh heavens don’t apologize for that! :) My first thought when I saw the VI was, “Hey! I know those freckles!” :)

      • David says:

        For some reason I keep thinking of a grownup Huckleberry Finn wearing an 18th century costume. It must be the freckles!

        • Lora says:

          “Grownup Huckleberry Finn” is an oxymoron. Doesn’t Tom Sawyer end with Twain’s profession that the story *must* end there before boyhood is over?

          • Brent says:

            From my copy of Tom Sawyer:

            “So endeth this chronicle. It being strictly a history of a BOY, it must stop here; the story could not go much further without becoming the history of a MAN. When one writes a novel about grown people, he knows exactly where to stop — that is, with a marriage; but when he writes of juveniles, he must stop where he best can.”

          • David says:

            *sigh* A HYPOTHETICAL adult version of Huck Finn, then! I considered Jimmy Olsen from ‘Superman’ but Hammie’s face is more angular than Jimmy’s.

            Btw, an adult Huck Finn HAS shown up in movie form. I don’t remember the name of the movie but it’s out there. And an adult Tom Sawyer certainly appeared in the movie adaptation of ‘The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen’ comic. So there! :P

          • David says:

            Btw, to be fair, I’m not saying it was necessarily a GOOD thing that we’ve had adult depictions of Tom and Huck in the movies. For all we know Mark Twain may NOT have approved, and if that were the case I wouldn’t be surprised if his Missouri temper had him cussing a blue streak as he looked on from his vantage point in the afterlife.

          • Brent says:

            Maybe not, but grown up Tom was one of the few few things I actually liked about the LXG movie

          • David says:

            I hear that. Adult Tom Sawyer WAS cool and I thought Nemo’s ‘Nautilus’ submarine was nifty in a “retro-futuristic” sort of way.

            Oh, and Peta Wilson was HOT as a “steampunk vampire.” Rowr! :)

            But, yeah, I’m basically with you on LXG.

  2. She sure means the One-Dollar Bill guy, my favorite of all time, George Washington.

    VI: THE TEN-DOLLAR-BILL GUY, my favorite returns and the charming looks!

    • Caera says:

      Trivia question for you: What other U.S. Treasury Secretary has his face on an American bill, and what denomination is that bill? ;) Note: It’s not in circulation now.

      • Robyn says:

        Can I answer that?

      • Julie says:

        Since I googled for the answer, I won’t spoil it for people who want to guess. :)

        • Dana says:

          It’s not Salmon Chase, is it?

          • Caera says:

            We have a winner! :D

          • Dana says:

            Oh, GOD. What demonitation? XD

          • Dana says:


          • Rachel Smith says:

            And just to throw another completely random piece of trivia into the conversation — In 1864, while passing through Litchfield, CT, Salmon P. Chase carved his name into one of the glass windowpanes in a second-floor bedroom in Benjamin Tallmadge’s house. Strange historical coincidences, anyone? :)

          • Caera says:

            @Dana $10,000 bill if I remember correctly. ;)

            @Rachel That IS an interesting coincidence. Is the pane in question still in existence? I’d love to see that. Why did he carve his name? Naughty!

          • Rachel Smith says:

            It is, Caera! I have a picture of it — not sure of the best way to share it, though. (Facebook? Or maybe this Dreamer tumblr I keep hearing about?)

            As of 2009 the carved panes were still in the second-floor windows, though the house was bought by new owners ~2 years ago who may have taken them down for preservation. The window in question is actually full of carved signatures from the mid-19th century, which include Tallmadge descendents and their more prominent houseguests (like Chase). It was a fairly common practice in Victorian America — well, at least among wealthy Victorians, since diamonds were the tool of choice to carve one’s name in a windowpane. Offhand, I can’t remember *why* that became such a fad — it may have had something to do with proving the authenticity of one’s diamond. (Also, Victorians are weird. One of the many reasons I prefer the Revolutionary period.) ;)

          • David says:

            I agree. Victorians were just so….”Victorian”. :)

          • Caera says:

            Glad to see that even our ancestors participated in strange trends. I thought the invention of the internet meme spawned that insanity but apparently it’s been around this whole time. :D

            I’d say post the picture to the Dreamer tumblr so everyone can see it. :)

          • Sam1775 says:

            Bad guy Dr. Benjamin Church scooped these people by almost a century.. He signed his name onto a pane of glass, presumably with a diamond, when imprisoned in Cambridge’s Vassall House on Tory Row. It is said to be there still. He was imprisoned there as a traitor in late 1775 into early 1776. He pulled the wool over Dr. Joseph Warren’s eyes, but not George Washington’s. Dr. John Warren, Nathan Hale and Alan Warren were in the vicinity at the time. It was during the Siege of Boston.

          • Caera says:

            So he was a diamond carving hipster on top of everything else? Hahaha!

          • David says:

            Wouldn’t a diamond and other valuables have been confiscated from Dr. Church when he first arrived at Vassall House, or would his jailers have considered that to be an “ungentlemanly” thing to do?

        • Sam1775 says:

          @David and @Caera: Dr. Church complained about being insulted in many ways after he was arrested, but being stripped of personal valuables was not one of his grievances. As a member of the Provincial Congress and the most senior physician in the Continental Army, he complained bitterly of confinement under house arrest for, as he deemed it, unjust reasons. He was treated as a VIP in jail, at least while he was in Cambridge. George Washington explicitly denied him pen and paper. As a propagandist, writer, and possible spy, Church’s pen was mightier than the sword. He was found guilty at military court marshal of inappropriate correspondence with the enemy, as opposed to the more serious charge of treason. I personally examined his original, secret letters to General Gage, which are archived at the Clements Library at U. Michigan. The latter only came to scholarly notice during the 1920s. The fellow was guilty as could be.

          • Caera says:

            I’d love to look at those. Man, if I ever got locked up without a writing outlet, it’d better be for a darn good reason. I’m serious. I would go stark raving mad.

          • David says:

            @Sam1775: In my opinion, it would have served Church right if his valuables HAD been confiscated and then, uh, “misplaced” by his jailers. Tsk, tsk!

          • Sam1775 says:

            @David: Why trifle with misplacing valuables when one could misplace the entire Dr. Church? In 1777 or 1778 he was sent into exile on a boat to the Caribbean. It and the Dr. were never heard from again and presumably lost at sea. The good doctor was ahead of his time in so many things – signing his name on glass with diamonds; beating Benedict Arnold to being the first traitor; and “exploring” the Bermuda Triangle.

  3. Rachel Smith says:

    Is that a dapple-gray horse?! You are so flipping awesome, Lora.

  4. SarahNara says:

    I’m curious as to how Bea is going to explain to Washington how she knows about a top-secret spy mission… I hope it goes well. Also, I just realized it’s been ages since I’ve commented on here! Grad school needs to stop being so much work.

    • Caera says:

      That’s going to be the hard part–if she even gets that far. :P

      • Jen says:

        Well, Nathan was really bad at keeping secret things secret. So she could fib and say that she overheard him talking about it or something.

        • Caera says:

          But then Tallmadge would be sad that he confided in her and not in him. :(

        • Brent says:

          Sure, just admit that she was outside the tent with Freddy that night! It wouldn’t even be a lie, really….

          • Caera says:

            But Freddy would be in HUGE trouble. Better leave him out of it. ;)

          • Brent says:

            Please, his father was just killed. No one would seriously put him in trouble.

          • Caera says:

            You’d be surprised how mercilessly cruel and disgusting people are, even after you have a tragedy like that. I know from personal experience.

            Please excuse me while I go pummel my rage out on the punching bags and not on the people who taught me to hate.

    • Celidah says:

      Excellent point. THAT would go over well, I’m sure.

      • Jen R. says:

        She would still have the issue of everyone around her thinking she was just worried, even if she could come up with a plausible reason of HOW she knew. :(

        • David says:

          She might be suspected of having ulterior motives. Remmember that Bea’s family was known to have had definite Loyalist sympathies, or they did before her abduction. Some might think Bea’s “abduction” was actually part of a British plot to insert a spy among the Patriot forces. For example, some Patriots may question WHY Howe brought Bea along with him to NYC instead of leaving her locked up back in Halifax or wherever he originally took her.

          Actually, that IS a good question. But anyway, suspicious types might deduce that the British were counting on Alan making a rescue attempt and made it “easier” for him to do it by moving Bea closer to him. They also might question how just one man could have pulled off such an amazing feat and theorize that the British KNEW what was going on and deliberately did not interfere with Alan in any way.

          Okay, I KNOW that sounds a bit far-fetched, but there have been real-life spy plots that put my scenario to shame.

          • Caera says:

            Plot chicken. :)

          • Melissa says:

            This site seriously needs like buttons. XD

          • David says:

            Spasiba! Seriously, though, do we REALLY know 18th century Bea as much as we THINK we do? Who can say WHAT was going through her mind before she “lost” her memory?

            In short, could 18th century Bea be a double-agent working for the British but just doesn’t know it now?

  5. nessili says:

    So…I take it Tallmadge was not Washington’s “spymaster” at this point? I thought I’d read that’s what he became later on. The whole Culper Ring and whatnot. Unless this is what spurs him to it? Or have I been reading too much historical fiction, and fiction and reality are blending in my brain. Again.

    • Faith says:

      I thought Tallmadge was already somebody important to Washington at this point? I need to brush up on the dates.

      • David says:

        I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the reason Tallmadge decided to get into the spy business. To maybe help future spies to try to avoid Nathan’s fate?

  6. Amber says:

    *ahem* Just need a moment!
    And.. George Washington?????????????????
    *does happy dance*
    Bea: But we’ve got to save Nathan!
    Hammy: No! You’re safe now. We will return to camp immediately, not go gallivating after redcoats!
    Nathan: Then we comdemn him to death!
    Hammy: The boy’s fate *is* regrettable… but then, so was his decision to engage in espionage. He knew he could be killed. I am sorry. There is nothing I can do.

    • Brent says:

      Wow, I didn’t know the gremlins traded out names too….

    • Jen says:

      This conversation would have to be followed up by some version of the blooper conversation between Norrington and Elizabeth, when she says, “Shall I go shopping for a wedding dress then? Or shall it be bare breasts and ankles all the way?”

  7. Brent says:

    HA! Damon! Love it….

    Oop! Hold on…..I’m imagining a world where Ian Somerholder is playing Ben….ah, that’s nice….

    Well, that’s a good way to do it, I guess. Vague enough on details but urgent enough to get things happening….for all the good it’ll do. Of course, if he is being genuine, it kinda knocks out of the realm of possibility, but whatevs.


    Hammy: “Nathan…..dead? But who will lead my Harlem Shake video now?”

  8. Faith says:

    Too much good-looking in one comic.

    That’s not a complaint, btw.

  9. Jen says:

    The way she says that last line makes it sound like George Washington is one of the Avengers or something.

  10. Half Moon says:

    weojfbwiud! WASHINGTON!!!!!!! And Hammy….And Damon <3 I love how she doesn'teven think about calling him "Ben" or "Lt. Tallmadge" it's just "DAMON!"

  11. kimmquinn says:

    Am I the only one concerned that if she predicts Nathan’s death they’re all gonna think she’s a witch and burn her at the stake?!

    Okay that’s probably not what Lora has been leading this whole thing up to but… I digress..

    • Brent says:

      Maybe not, but it would be a hell of an out for the act.

    • Nass says:

      I doubt they’d suspect witchcraft as a viable decision. The Salem witch trials took place in 1692 and was at the very end of the age in which tradition and religious superstition were the sole means by which western societies governed their populous (I’m not saying it doesn’t still happen in isolated incidents though). 1776 was well into the Age of Enlightenment, the movement that rejected traditional Christian religions in favor of Deism. In fact, George Washington was a known freemason which espoused Enlightenment principles.

  12. Nass says:

    It will be interesting to see how this plays out. If I were her, the first thing I would figure out how much time has passed but acting analytically and methodically is not in her character at all. I’m assuming that because the comic has already shown us Nathan’s hanging and it seems that time passes at the same pace in the past as the future, it has already happened but that *may not* be the case.

    I find it interesting that almost none of the characters in this comic are logical as a dominant personality trait. Alan is logical in so far as he can make sound decisions and tactics on the battlefield but his much more of a feeler when it comes to the woman he loves. I almost want there to be a logical thinker as a tertiary character who makes Bea stop and say to herself, “maybe I can use my knowledge of the future to influence events if I plan ahead a bit”. At the same time I feel like a character like that wouldn’t fit in with the mood of the story at all.

    • Lora says:

      That was Knowlton. Regrettably he’s unable to keep Bea and Alan in check now. Liz, Ben, and Ben T. are all head not heart thinkers. But Bea has cut herself off from Liz for now and Ben C took himself out of the equation.

  13. trevor says:

    Cut to good ol’ George, hanging out in the Innes living room with his swivel boy.


  14. Susan says:

    One does not simple go and talk to Georgre Washington (invision the meme).